Alleged pimp Karen MacGregor was "a good listener"

A WOMAN who claims she was sexually assaulted at child sex abuse defendant Karen MacGregor's house described the defendant as a good listener.

“Shelley (Davies, co-defendant) and Karen were always going out together,” said the witness.

“Shelley would come back with Karen with brand new clothes, brand new quilts, bedding.”

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The woman said often she did not know what the Asian men were discussing when they visited MacGregor's house because they were mainly speaking another language.

“She used to talk in their language as well,” she said.

The woman, now aged 41, said she would often look after MacGregor’s children and had no recollection of social services ever visiting.

Around ten years ago, the witness said, she bumped into MacGregor’s daughter by chance in Blackpool and was told MacGregor was running a bed and breakfast there.

MacGregor’s daughter allegedly invited the witness and the witness’s daughter to visit the B&B to see MacGregor.

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When they got there, the court heard, she noticed there were many young girls at the B&B.

“I didn't know she was there or had a B&B, it was a big surprise,” she said.

Mr Robert Wyn Jones, defending MacGregor, said whatever his client had done prior to the alleged assault at MacGregor’s Rawmarsh home the witness cannot know because she passed out due to alcohol.

Mr Wyn Jones said: “Were you not worried about it happening again?”

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The witness replied: “I don't think I was no, I just blocked it out and got up the next morning.”

Mr Wyn Jones said that while the witness lived at MacGregor’s she had been in a long-term relationship with a man, as were MacGregor and another lodger, and these were the only Asian men to frequent her home, except when they had Eid parties.

He said: “You were not locked up, you were having a relationship, going out when you wanted to, Karen says on no occasion did she have to help you upstairs because you were drunk.”

Ms Laura Brickman, defending Qurban Ali, said: “When you moved into Karen's home you became preoccupied with your new life, you had a boyfriend, a job and a new home.

“While you were staying there you heard the name Blind Ash.

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“The man we know as Qurban Ali has never visited her address.”

A statement was read out from a school friend of Shelley Davies who said when she was 15-years-old she used to hang around Speedline Taxis with her in Masbrough and Davies “would go off with Pakistani men in taxis”.

The school friend said she (Shelley) began having sex with the men.

At the same age, she moved into MacGregor's Highfield Road house with Davies and said Karen was nice to her.

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“Nothing sexual ever happened at her house,” the witness said.

“I can recall she knew a lot of Pakistani men, it was as if she knew all the Pakistani men in Rotherham.”

Five men as well as Davies and MacGregor deny 63 child sex abuse offences.

The trial continues.

 

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